Need to vent here. I am really pissed! The resturant owner called me today and informed that Griffin oil collectors said it would void his contract if he allowed anyone else to get oil from him. He allowed me to place my container at his business and as soon as Griffin seen it, they had a cow and told him that was against policy. I mean good grief, me getting a measly 50 gallons a week when Griffin is getting about a 250 gallons a week. Like they are really going to miss it. I hope they get boils all over them, I wish a pox on them. May the bird of paradise fly up their nose! Maybe someday the will piss off the wrong people and someone will bash them in the face!
i have the same situation,they even throw my contained away,its because they clean the grease traps charge the rest owner for it and besides take the oil.what a good bussines.
then they make biodiesel out of something they get for free and want to sale it 5cents less then the pump
they are worst then chevron and the arabs and bush,and all those mf that profit from owr misery based on a daili necesity
if i dont find a oil supplier i wil go out of bussines
h2j0e:Did he explain to you why breaking the contract would be a bad thing? Would they pay him less money for his WVO? Do they even pay him now? Or did they just refuse to just take "part" of his oil? Has anyone else ran into Griffin and if so have they caused any broken contracts? I am very curious because I am going to be getting my oil from a restaurant that is currently with Griffin. I don't just want part though I want it all.
most likely, if you have arranged with business owner, if you are taking all of the oil, you wll be just fine. griffin will be out of the picture, they may fuss, but it makes no difference in your case. my problem is that I cannot deal with the amount of oil that the business produces, I only was going to take part of the oil, owner still has contract with griffin to pick up oil, griffin refuses to allow me to have even a small part of the oil. as far as I am concerned, I think griffin, and other wvo collection moguls, are a bunch of greedy bast**ds and they can stick where the sun don't shine. every chance I get I am going to bash the crap out of them. They are lousy business men and they don't give a crap about the USA or the people in it. as far as I am concerned they are communist and maybe even some of the are muslims with connections to the al queda, maybe they are hoarding all of the wvo so we will have to use more fossil fuel from the sands of their lousy country. I really hope that someone connected to the oil collection moguls will read this post.
just out of curiosity, how many of you people out there, making biodiesel, have been approached by friends, newsmedia, people in general, about how to make fuel out of wvo? I am somewhat of a recluse, I tend to keep to myself, but just by word of mouth, I have been approached by several people, including a local newschannel, which I declined, about how to make the fuel and what does it cost. Now granted, a lot of people won't have what it takes to make fuel, but for the most part, that doesn't mind getting their hands dirty and are even slightly mechanically minded will be able to make fuel. has anyone thought about how many people are going to try this? I suspect that wvo is going to become more and more valuable I understand that most processor builder/vendors are behind by months due to demand. Folks, I don't know where our economy is headed, but I have been told by reliable sources that within 10 years, fossil fuel will be approaching 10 bucks a gallon. I guess what I am trying to say here, as a biodiesel community, I think we need to band together and watch out for each other and try to help each other, we have a valuable ability here that is going to become more and more desirable as time goes by. I am all for the florida biodiesel coop and I will support it in any way I can.
My guess is Griffin pays more for the oil than you do.
Dereck
dereckbc: My guess is Griffin pays more for the oil than you do.
well derekbc, your guess is wrong! are you a supporter of griffin?
btw, how are things in texas?
you makin lots of bd?
No I do not support or represent Griffin, don't even know who they are.
Don't mock TX BD industry, it is the largest in the USA for production and usage. In 2007 there were 148 production facilites in the US and 22 (15%) of those are in TX with 12 more under construction in 2008. Austin has the highest number of biodiesel fueling stations of any city in the nation.
The point I am trying to make here in TX no restaurant gives the oil away anymore, it is a commodity and sold to the highest bidder. It is only a matter of time before the whole country is that way. Some chains like McDonalds already has national contracts to buy thier used oil nation wide. It is a biz now, not a hobby.
i've only been involved in this biodiesel thing for a couple of months now. I'm constantly reading, and watching things change almost every day. so far from what i've learned is that what could be a solid connection for whatever it is you need to process today might evaporate completely by tomorrow. and to do what i need to do will make me have to prepare myself for when it happens and do something about it and not waste time whining and crying about it if i have to pay more for it and that will take care of it ,then i will. maybe make a contract with the restaurant between you and them? or just find another source.{even though they are getting harder to find} I just know that the more i research this the more contacts i make it keeps opening up new opprrtunities. some fall through and some come up good. but from what i see, this is going to happen alot to all of us. so we are going to have to be very versatile and strong willed.don't give up.maybe with this guy just move on. if you can't use all of his oil,take all of it and give it or even sell it to someone else .
First of all GRIFFIN is thinking that they are the only people who can supply buisness's with oil pick up.. NOT. You have to be able to
service your customers evry week and give them quality service.. Point of sales are the most important aspect of any buisness,,Never worry about them or anyone for that matter..Offer the cust something better than them.. MONEY.. I am buying the oil from my cust base..I will soon have over 10 locations and i just started..Thats in one month..I will never take no for an answer.. You must get a contract typed up and submit it to the owner..Take them some candy,whiskey, find out what they hold dear and explore that with them.. We are all on this journey and if you can find out what their likes and dislike are then u can nurture you product.. Griifin is going to be losing alot of accounts in the near future and its not becuase they are not run good,but i will offer my stores better service and will always personally serve them and call them daily.I could care less about griffin or any supplier.. You had better work at least 80 hours a week to compete..Its a rule of thumb.Hard work and persitance always always pays off.. I love the idea that their is a base to go on.. Get griffin to send u a contract and then make it better. its that simple..Take what the big guy is doing and do it better. SID
Sidney,
Are you using all of the oil that you collect? You sound like you are good at closing the deals for the oil, would you consider working with someone who has a plant that needs 8,000 gallons a day.
Carl
I am with you! Griffin seems to be very greedy! The crap of it all is in the past restaurant owners had to pay Griffin to remove the oil. Now Griffin pays pennies to have it. And expect it all! I am not sure how the contract reads it seems to be very Hush Hush. The one thing I do know is Griffin makes a big deal to these people that they ARE UNDER CONTRACT!! It seems that people are scared All I hear is contract, contract, contract. I would love to see this "contract" does it actually read that Griffin gets it all? Are people required to give a specific amount? What are the penelties for breaking this contract? and When does it expire? I WILL make a better offer for companys not to renew!
DoubleXL: Sidney, Are you using all of the oil that you collect? You sound like you are good at closing the deals for the oil, would you consider working with someone who has a plant that needs 8,000 gallons a day. Carl
To be honest, I am unsure about my other sources also, I need approx. 200 gallons a month of WVO, and I have to really scratch to get that. The source I referred to here in this post produces about 1500 gallons a month during season, I cannot handle his whole contract. The problem is that he has a reliable contractor (Griffin) that will pick his oil up consistently without problems, I can't blame him for not wanting to change...I mean if he goes with someone else and they miss a pickup or drop the ball, what is he going to do with all of the oil he produces? I am reluctant to reveal any sources I have found. Dig?
contact me at esterfuel@yahoo.com and I will visit with you about it.
My wife, brother-in-law, and I are getting into this business full time. My wife started doing the sales end of it recently and landed our first wvo client. I know my wife can get lots of locations, she's an incredible salesperson. My brother-in-law has the truck and the business know how, and I am the guy working the computers and streets looking for prospective clients and partnerships. I would love to eat into Griffin's profits on a full time basis. I agree we need to provide a better service and give clients more for their oil than just a sloppy dumpster to dump it in. Customer service with a smile and a relationship not just a contract. Its funny you said take them some candy or whiskey...we didnt do that exactly...we simply befriended our first client...we ate dinner in his restaraunt and got to know the guy a little bit and now he wants to supply us over the other two people who had approached him. Anyway we are gonna hit it hard again today. Would you be interested in partnering with us? Let me know.
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Although not their exact contract, what I have found to be the gist of the wording states that in the event that someone else takes the waste oil, or services your business, you (the business owner) pay the contract holder the going rate of the oil as if it were new, plus the remaining balance at market price.
One contract I have provides the removal of waste oil as a free service, unless someone else takes it. Then I pay the going rate for what would have been collected, at market price, for the full two year contracted period, regardless of prior history,ect...
It reminds me of Bally-esque fitness club contracts......
-Steve
That seems confusing to me, you have to pay if someone else gets the wvo?
Not at all. It just insures that your supply isnt interrupted and that the time you invest in servicing a business isnt pirated or poached by others.
dont get pist no more i find the way,i loose some supplyers,but im back.
griffin cant pay much because tey have a lot of overhead cost write me at scottmezajohnny@yahoo.com and i tell you how
sorry, for your problem.Iam going to import cooking used oil from south America,aproximate,50,000 gallons per week.we can talk. 561-2014094,(cell). anyone interested? office (561-6250333).out of u.s.a. email: albert@caststoneinternational,com.